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iconRe: .....ECFMG certification and job prospect in AU

@ Dr Attique
recieved ur p/m and responding u partially on forum so other may benfited from this inf:...........i wll try to email u as well to answer other queries.
....................................
with ref to ur que: # 1...wheather a ecfmg certified doc can apply fr the exemption to AMC exam ??........to answer this ...i have pasted info directly from AMC web.....and as far as i understand them ...they require 2 y residency as well...bt i strongly suggest u apply (online)...coz i know so many doc working in au who hasnt fullfilled 100 % of criteria....i also suggest u plz visit www.doctorconnect.gov.au......and find how and to whom u may apply ....dont forget to visit www.amc.org.au....
plz read stuff below carefully.
gud luk
naved
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Competent authority pathway assessment

The AMC has endorsed the bodies listed below as competent authorities for awarding advanced standing towards the AMC Certificate. International medical graduates who are eligible for the competent authority pathway are not required to pass the MCQ or clinical examination to be registered, but must satisfactorily complete a period of workplace-based performance assessment.
Note: If you have access to the internet, Competent authority applications can be made online.
The full competent authority pathway is currently operational in:
• Queensland
• Victoria
• New South Wales
• South Australia (see note below*)
• Western Australia
• Northern Territory
• Tasmania
• Australian Capital Territory (for hospital-based competent authority applications).

*The Medical Board of South Australia has provided the following information for IMGs in South Australia who are seeking assessment through the Competent Authority pathway:
• All Competent Authority (CA) eligible applicants from South Australia (SA) should apply first to the AMC for Advanced Standing.
• Once Advanced Standing is granted, applicants from South Australia then apply to the accredited provider, the Postgraduate Medical Council of South Australia (PMCSA), to complete the workplace-based assessment.
• When the applicant has successfully completed the workplace-based assessment the PMCSA will provide written advice to the AMC, so that the AMC can issue the AMC Certificate.

If you meet the conditions in one of the categories A, B, C, D or E, you may be eligible for the competent authority pathway. Assessment of documentation can take up to four weeks. Application forms are available below.
Category A UNITED KINGDOM General Medical Council (GMC)
I have successfully completed the Professional and Linguistic Assessments Board (PLAB)
test since 1975
AND
I have successfully completed the Foundation Year 1or 12 months supervised training (Internship equivalent) approved by the GMC in the United Kingdom or another AMC designated Competent Authority country.
AND
I have full registration issued by the GMC (as evidenced by a Certificate of Good Standing)
Category B UNITED KINGDOM General Medical Council (GMC)
I am a graduate of a medical course conducted by a medical school in the United
Kingdom accredited by the General Medical Council
AND
I have successfully completed the Foundation Year 1or 12 months supervised training (Internship equivalent) approved by the GMC in the United Kingdom or another AMC designated Competent Authority country.
AND
I have full registration issued by the GMC (as evidenced by a Certificate of Good Standing)
Category C CANADA Medical Council of Canada
I have successfully completed the licentiate examinations of the Medical Council
of Canada (LMCC).
Category D UNITED STATES Education Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates
I have successfully completed the United States Medical Licensing Examination Step 1,
Step 2 and Step 3 since 1992
AND
I have successfully completed a minimum of two years of graduate medical education
within a residency program accredited by the Accreditation Council of Graduate Medical Education.
Category E NEW ZEALAND Medical Council of New Zealand (MCNZ)
I have successfully completed the New Zealand Registration Examination
AND
I have successfully completed the required rotating internship (four runs accredited
by the MCNZ).
Category F IRELAND Medical Council of Ireland
I am a Graduate of a Medical School in Ireland accredited by the Medical Council of Ireland
AND
I have successfully completed an internship in Ireland (certificate of experience) or in another Competent Authority country approved by the Medical Council of Ireland

Applications for competent authority pathway assessment
If you are an international medical graduate and you:
• meet the competent authority pathway requirements, and
• have not worked in a clinical position in Australia under the supervision of a medical board or have worked in a clinical position under supervision for less than 12 months
you may apply for assessment to determine whether you can follow the competent authority pathway.

The components of the assessment are:
• assessment for advanced standing towards the AMC Certificate
• assessment for completion of workplace-based performance assessment. (12 months supervised practice). Please refer to AMC fee structure

Apply online now!!

or

Complete the Competent Authority Form.
Applications for AMC Certificate
If you are an international medical graduate and you:
meet the competent authority pathway requirements
have completed more than 12 months supervised practice in Australia, and
have all the necessary documentation from the relevant medical board
you may apply for the AMC Certificate.
Assessment for the AMC Certificate.
Complete the Transitional Competent Authority Form.
Important note
If you apply for the competent authority pathway, you are liable for the full assessment fee even if the assessment determines that you are not eligible for assessment.

Competent authority pathway: frequently asked questions

Medical qualifications recognised by the United Kingdom General Medical Council

Last Updated on Thursday, 11 December 2008 16:17



Posted by: drnavd Posts: 164 :: 18-01-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


iconRe: Re: Re: Australian medical council exam

Dear Dr Naveed
your advise on study material is very helpful could y guide on the pattern how to go with the studies and where to get the study material,i am planning to go for AMC exam and have passed the requirement of IELTS,i'm based at Jeddah are there any centres here

Posted by: Jamin Posts: 3 :: 19-01-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


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Dr Naveed ,i understand u r in saudia Araia which place are u working i am also working in KSA and am between Jeddah and Makkah,I am working in MOH,where are u working,i am planning to give the exam aswell and also have applied for immigration thus to clear this exam is mandatory for me

Posted by: Jamin Posts: 3 :: 22-01-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


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@dr jamal
dear doc
yes i do work in ksa and today being first day of my annual vaccation in pak. best of luk fr ur immigration process........inf: u ask fr:
1-till july 2008 this exam was available in ksa (i took this exam in feb 2008 (by prometric) in RIYADH. bt no longer available in ksa infact notin whole muslim word.
2-fr venue available u need to visit.... www.amc.org.au ...2 bodies r coducting it out side aus.pearon vue ...... www.vue.com......and cliftons.. www.cliftons.com.
3-the best proven effectivce way fr preps (as indicated by people who cleared it) is first to pick old papers and mcqs and than to go in text.....we hv discussed it in detail on previous pages.
4-from where to obtain prep material ??...again i would request u to go through page 1 & 2 ..i m sure u will find the answer......+ try to down load mcqs available on this site these will be v effective.
plz feel free to communicate.
best of luk
naved

Posted by: drnavd Posts: 164 :: 24-01-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


iconRe: Re: Australian medical council exam - Help with Preparation

dear colleagues. i am dr naeem, i want appear for amc in june. how do i proceed. any dear dr in lhr, ibd, rwp peshawer or would like to have joint discussion my e-mail address is mnaeemashraf@yahoo.com
thanks
naeem

Posted by: Naimashraf Posts: 3 :: 30-01-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


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@ drnavd

thnx......great work
need your advice.....i want go work in saudia and study for amc mcq.....do you think its a good idea!!! then what are your future plan after passing mcq?

Posted by: icehell Posts: 2 :: 01-02-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


iconRe: Re: Re: Australian medical council exam - Help with Preparation

@ dr naeem

dear doc ....exam is scheduled fr may ..and than july........so u cannt appear in june...regarding hw to proceed....u need to visit www.amc.org.au.....nw u can apply on line and create ur own section like usmle .. www.exams.amc.org.au.......
briefly u wll hv to go through following steps.
1-on line fill a preliminary assesment form. costing arround 50 aud.
2-than ANOTHER form (previously called form A).......that wll include number of certified copies eg ur passport and diploma
3- third form (previously called form C1).....it will be accompanied with exam fee aud..1830.
.......thats hw i proceeded one y back .bt nw online option is available so its more quick........try to read page 1 & 2 of ths forum it wll answer much of ur query abt hw to proceed and what books shud be used.
regards
naved

Posted by: drnavd Posts: 164 :: 01-02-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


iconRe: Re: Re: Re: Australian medical council exam - Help with Preparation

thanks for guidance. any information regarding standing of fcps in australia. i hope the payments are step wise and in one go. july is even better my kids will be on vacation.
any friend in pakistan rwp/ibd preparing for same , plz contact on my e mail mnaeemashraf@yahoo.com
thanks.

Posted by: Naimashraf Posts: 3 :: 01-02-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


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@ICE HELL

yes its a grt idea.......and thats what i am doing. saudi arabia can proves to be a Gate way .infact till july 2008 this exam was available in riyadh bt no longer.
well..after clearing mcq exam i will visit australia and try to get a postion there.

Posted by: drnavd Posts: 164 :: 05-02-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


iconfcps ...........value in au ?

@ dr naeem
well if u hv cleard fcps 2 than certainly u wll fall in specialist cadr , in this case u wll hv to contact amc directly and put ur qualification + exp to them. amc onward put ur case to specilist college in au.
yes, fees r step wise.

Posted by: drnavd Posts: 164 :: 05-02-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


iconRe: Re: Re: Australian medical council exam - Help with Preparation

hello dr ayesha . right now i m studying in china . by next year i wanna appear for amc . could u please suggest how to prepare step by step . and if possible could email me some amc mcqs and study material for amc . i will be very thankful . this is my email add pingsay@yahoo.com / pingsay@gmail.com . if there is anything i should know regarding anything , please feel free to emal me . thanks u

thanks again dr ayesha.

Posted by: simplebery Posts: 3 :: 11-02-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


iconRe: exam center ??

i think india shud be a good option for u . cause india is near and u wont have language barrier. u can choose new delh or bangalore . i m sure u wont have any problem . especially bangalore . people are good .

Posted by: simplebery Posts: 3 :: 11-02-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


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hi i wanted to kno if 1 is appearing in amc exam from australia its makes ny difference n also that if 1 has cleared amc part1 exam can get resideny just after that or has to wait to clear amc 2....
please give ur expert advises it will be highly appreciable

Posted by: doc30 Posts: 3 :: 10-03-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


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@ doc 30
no it will not make any difference weather u appear from within aus or else where.
most of people gt job as "resident" once they hv cleared amc written exam. bt u wll hv to make ur own effort to get that. training positions r v competitive and u wll hv to compete with indigenous aussi docs fr that.
good luk

Posted by: drnavd Posts: 164 :: 18-03-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


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@ dr umber
recieved ur pm.
well best utilization of last 2 months would be (to me)....repeat and repeat old papers and mcqs as much as possible.
good luk

Posted by: drnavd Posts: 164 :: 18-03-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


iconRe: Re: Australian medical council exam

Dear Dr. Naved,
Do you have any info about Occupational English Test for Australia
Thanks
Kamran

Posted by: Mali77 Posts: 20 :: 22-03-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


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@mali
OET (occupational english test).is particulatly designed fr professional , mainly health related. i think melburne university conduct it. in opinions of few docs who hs taken it ....its easier and coastly than ielts.its being conducting in 40 countries arround the worls including pakistan (islamabad).
regards.
naved
plz visit ...... www.occupationalenglishtest.org...fr full up to date inf

Posted by: drnavd Posts: 164 :: 26-03-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


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Thanks Dr. Naveed
Do you know anybody who wrote this test?
Kamran

Posted by: Mali77 Posts: 20 :: 28-03-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


iconoet

i had a chance to speak few people who took it , bt no longer in touch with any one .

Posted by: drnavd Posts: 164 :: 30-03-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


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Hi, Guys.

I just joined in.

I would like to ask some advice on how to go about the AMC orals. It seems that the greatest hurdle would be the time pressure. Do you have any books to suggest besides the AMC recommended texts.

Thanks

Posted by: mameng (Guest) :: 01-04-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


iconAMC EXAM Group

slam 3lykom Drs all
any one in KSA preparing for the AMC would like to make a study group or we can exchange information please contact me...
thanx

Posted by: mhmdali Posts: 5 :: 02-04-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


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@mhmadali
yes i m in ksa and ready to take exam in july / sept.....i wud be pleased to share my preps & tips.
naved

Posted by: drnavd Posts: 164 :: 02-04-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


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@drnaveed.
This is very informative platform.You seem to be helping a lot. I am reading kaplan series. Please guide me if john murtagh is important read. Did you study it. That seems too big book to handle. Can't we clear exam without it.
Second Can we get job by just doing AMC 1. How much are chances. are there still jobs in australia or it is dried up.
Please also guide me about usmle qbank and usmleworld. How fruitful can they be in preperation for AMC. Did you do them?
I'll be very thankful if you can guide me in my preperations.

regards.

Posted by: angel73 Posts: 11 :: 04-04-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


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@dr zohaib
hope all is fine in lahore.
1-on one hand john murtagh is a beautifull book on other hand its imposible to get command on such book for an exam like AMC, so i my self confused wht to do with it ?
still i hs nt gone through this book bt i m thnking to gt those topics which are repeated in old papers and annotated book from j.murtagh....is it available in pak ?
you can also down load it from this hperlink:... www.scribd.com/doc/6495553/general-practice.....
2-australia is still deficient in demand - supply ratio as fr as docs and nurses are concernd. u cn get a job in au after clearing ur MCQ potion + ielts (7).
3-i hv used oxfrd (med + spe) fr as base line bt also hv used kaplan q bank.no idea abt usmle world. in my opinion by making stp 2 preps u make more than enough for this exm....questions in stp2 r more lenghty and case scenario as compared to amc which make amc exam little easier than stp 2 (in my opinion).
best of luk
(when u plans to take this exam ??)
regards

[Edited by drnavd on 07-04-2009 at 07:23 PM GMT]

[Edited by drnavd on 07-04-2009 at 07:27 PM GMT]

Posted by: drnavd Posts: 164 :: 07-04-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


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Thank you very much for your reply. I am also at loss for JM. I don't think with time available , i'll be able to do justice with this book. Perhaps i have to be content with Kaplan and since you are saying that step 2 preperation is enough for this exam , so i think it is encouraging to follow only this series of books.
On another website i.e. rxpgonline, some who have passed this exam feel that JM was not necessary. I can just hope that they are not misguiding us.
JM is available at Union book shop anarkali. I don't know if it is in stock of late but it was definitely there.
I have just started my prep from Kaplan gynae obs, so far behind you. When to appear , well ,it will depend on my preperation but if all goes well, i'll try to make it in november ( i think this is last attempt of year.) when are you appearing and any tips regarding preperation.
I am thankful once again for your guidance.

regards.


[Edited by angel73 on 08-04-2009 at 07:39 AM GMT]

Posted by: angel73 Posts: 11 :: 08-04-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


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hi docs.....u r doing great job...even dinosaur like me is benefiting from it.i plan to take amc exam by the end of this year......i have a few questions.........whats if i can get hold of anonated mcq book..? some doctor in pakistan must be having it...plz help.
secondly does anybody know about clinical exam...where does it take place and how much it cost?

Posted by: nad4 Posts: 2 :: 10-04-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


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@ DR NADEEM
1-annotated book mcqs represents not only old papers questions bt "topics of intersts " fr AMC . by taking command on this book means taking command on 600 topics ,yes it may prove sufficient.
u may get it from balck well publishers australia.... www.blackwellpublishing.com...

2-clinical portion of this exam is only conducted in australia so cnters are within au (syd,melb,perth,brisbane,adelaide)....cost is arround 2500 aus dollars. u need to conferm this amount... www.amc.org.au....
regards

[Edited by drnavd on 12-04-2009 at 05:39 PM GMT]

Posted by: drnavd Posts: 164 :: 12-04-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


icon(AMC vs MCC) Australian medical council exam

Asalam O Alaekum Every one!
Hi can any one help me that is there any similarity b/w AMC and MCC(Medical Council Of Canada) Examination. Actually i want to do preparation which could go with both. Actually i might move to canada in afew months but i saw the pattern of MCC's Examinationa and have found it very difficult and my uncle is in Australia and he keeps on insisting to come over to Australia. Can any one tell me that if i prepare for AMC will that help me for MCC. Please help me out because now i wanna start my preparation since i dont find any glimpce of Hope in USMLE since the jobs are cut down like any thing...Thank You plz Reply me as soon as possible.

Posted by: viccoo Posts: 3 :: 16-04-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


iconRe: (AMC vs MCC) Australian medical council exam

@vicoo
yes u can make a joint preparation.
infact till july 2008 AMC papers were a joint venture between AMC & MCC in a bid to make such exam acceptable 2 to both countries...(anthology of med condition ...has bbeen adopted from mcc OBJECTIVES)... bt it seems ths cooperation prevails no longer since AMC has changed the testing vendor from prometric ...to pearson vue and cliftons.

AMC VS MCC.
mcc comprises 3 parts
1-evaluation exm.
2-qualifying exm-1 (written)
3-qualifying exam-2 (clinical)

evaluation exam 1 & 2 will check following sujects med,surg,gyn..obs ,paeds & psychiatry....only diffecnce in both exams is the level and depth of knowledge .qualifying1- specially focus on those conditions and dis: common in canadian society.
qualifying -2 will chech ur clinical skills.
though exam setup is closer to AMC but MCC is as difficult as USMLE.
AMC written exam check ur knowlegde in the same subjects as MCC eval: exam but evam pattern would be little change ...more lenghtly and case oriented questions like steps.good thing abt amc is u comes in a strong postion of being employed in au immediately u clear ur written portion of exam.
in ur current situation where u r unable to make a choice btn MCC & AMC ..i recommend u start preparing fr amc exam and include TORONTO NOTES (famous fr MCC exam preps )....once u gv ur amc written exam immediately take mcc evaluation exam which is available in pakistan (karachi,isb& lahore).
best of luk

Posted by: drnavd Posts: 164 :: 17-04-2009 :: | Reply to this Message


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hi folks any body tell me that which is the best for future is it to do mrcs or amc. and it is request to dr. naved if u r in k s a still than pls give me ur contact number cause i m also living in k s a and need ur guidance. i will b very thankfull to you. pls. my email is shahilumhs@hotmail.com, contact 00966556673627

[Edited by shahilumhs on 19-04-2009 at 01:03 AM GMT]

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