PakMediNet Discussion Forum : Public Health : Strikes, Strikes , Strikes----- What Next??
Fist it was Media Vs Doctors ( Jinnah Hospital Incident, Lahore)
Then came Nurses VS Doctors ( PIMS Hospital, Islamabad)
I am wondering what is next....
Paramedical staff Vs Doctors
Then
Medical sub-specialties Vs Surgical sub-specialties............
One can read the detailed account of another strike for Haqooq here
http://thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=236866
But the most disturbing parts were these
""The doctors continued their — one of the biggest-ever in the history of the hospital — for the second consecutive day on Friday. They skipped OPDs, assembled outdoors to make speeches, and as if that was inadequate, blocked the main road in front of PIMS for about 45 minutes, thereby interrupting traffic flow and causing needless inconvenience to the public.""
Being a resident of Islamabad all my life i can very well imagine what would have happened when the main road in front of PIMS was blocked...We criticize and howl when traffic is stopped for VVIP movement, but what about such irresponsible behavior by our own..
""As far as patients are concerned, all those admitted in the hospital for elective surgeries and procedures have been discharged""
I wonder if some of them had been our own relative ( father, brother, mother admitted for surgery) what would be our reaction to this WONDERFUL decision by our doctor colleagues..
I am not sure how low we will degrade our selves and profession in the coming days...May be next time somebody might come up with another idea of protest...""Leaving half open abdomens in OT to register our point of view""
""In another development, a PIMS Action Committee has been constituted, and the head of paediatric surgery Dr. Zaheer Abbasi has unanimously been selected as its chairman. This 40-member committee comprising doctors, senior administrators, security personnel, paramedics and members of the Young Doctors Association and the Paramedics Association, held its first meeting at PIMS on Friday.""
All i know when there are committee like these ,with dozens of bright minds acting like monkeys, results are disastrous....
Nobody ever made such committee to improve the care of patients, promote biomedical research, curb fraud and false publications ( a hallmark of Pakistani Doctors, including professors), improve the standards of residency, setting up centers of excellence in research etc....But when it comes down to issues like these every monkey wants to jump on the protest Band wagon....
and the last one is an eye opener and reveals the real motives of the holy warriors very well
""One senior consultant suggested that “The Ministry of Health should reinstate Dr. Ghazala, and having done so, should appoint someone else in her place within three days to a week. I can assure you that nobody will protest the decision then, because at the moment, doctors are showing solidarity with her out of the fear of nurses standing up against any one of them in the future.” An interesting analysis, indeed!""
Comments any body? I am sad and dejected indeed....
Regards
[Edited by drrathore on 01-05-2010 at 05:32 AM GMT]
Posted by: drrathorePosts: 428 :: 01-05-2010 :: | Reply to this Message
dear dr Rathore,
i am not well informed about the exact nature of events that took place,which you have referred to,but i can say this much,ours is a feudal system and it has a great amount of influence on how we think as a nation and the rest is the political system that tries to use every event for its very own purposes.we need to do a lot before we can expect any change for the better.
Posted by: ziarizviPosts: 26 :: 01-05-2010 :: | Reply to this Message
Thank you for your comments Sir
The details of the event can be found here
http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=103859
http://pkproblems.com/index.php/pims-nurses-protest-pakistan/
Regards
Posted by: drrathorePosts: 428 :: 01-05-2010 :: | Reply to this Message
well dr Rathore,
Our beloved country Pakistan, as a whole is pasing through a great termoil and is under a lot of internal and external threats, the effect/influence of which can be seen in every walk of life.We the doctors do come 4m the same community and dont have any exception. majority of the doctors come 4m middle class community,mostly still working on honourary basis despite havin beed decorated with the so called *cream of the nation* medals, more over issue of supporting their families,maintaining the Doctors status, so unreasonable wages, non human seniors attitudes, victims of CPSP Mafia, their workshops..... and a lot more in the form of insecurity, bombs, political infancy.... whenever this burning situation gets a little oil in the form of some unwanted incidence either its from a patients relative, media monkeys or any one else of suc IQ... we cant expect a response better or worse than this. so be patient and pray for the good days to come, the job whole of the Pakistan is doing since ite creation.
[Edited by drgill on 03-05-2010 at 06:35 AM GMT]
Posted by: drgillPosts: 25 :: 03-05-2010 :: | Reply to this Message
Dear Dr. Rathore,
The incident is regretful. After reading the two news links given by you, all I can see is gross disarray. The problem is at all levels. Certain questions need answers. Did the nurses give their demands to concerned authority through proper channel? If yes, then it seems that the concerned authority did not pay much attention to solve the issue of these demands which led to the aggressive protest by nurses. Was that the right choice by nurses to block the main gate, road and emergency services to get their demands fulfilled? Why did ED try to run over protesting nurses? Did she really do it? Why did the concerned representative of government not sort the issue in time before the protest went to parliament's vicinity? Sanity is needed at all levels. I pray that this issue is solved amicably and its retrospective analysis should be done to prevent similar incidents in future.
Regards,
Dr Omar Rathore
[Edited by Dr Jazz on 06-05-2010 at 11:40 PM GMT]
Posted by: Dr JazzPosts: 2 :: 06-05-2010 :: | Reply to this Message
First of all, I don’t think any doctor will ever be satisfied. We need to think about the patients these strikes will not do well for anyone, especially not patients. The health sector is in crisis and I think doctors are being paid well enough. What I should say is the cost of being a medical doctor is too high and that is what the government should focus on. Why is the cost for medical students so high? If the fees is so high it means that hospitals are earning quite a lot.
Posted by: rashidmuntPosts: 7 :: 14-05-2018 :: | Reply to this Message